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Rescue rules queries

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2024 1:56 pm
by Fionn
The modified rules for rescuing a prisoner are very sensible, but when you look carefully the wording is unclear in a few places, probably where they differ from the escape rules.

"STR and rank mods apply as for escapes": does this apply to the rescuers as well? STR makes sense, but it does not seem right that a senior officer helping the rescue actually makes it harder (unless you hold the NCOs view of all senior officers :D )

"There is an additional -1 mod if the prisoners had planned their own escape that turn"; meaning that week or that month?

"The outcome is taken from the Rescue table and is independent for each rescuer and prisoner"; presumably this means that there is one outcome roll per prisoner but everyone present makes a separate death roll?

"[T]here are no mods to the death roll" but "The Modifier for highest Battle is also used on the death rolls rolled for each individual taking part."??

Re: Rescue rules queries

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2024 11:26 am
by Puckohue
Fionn wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 1:56 pm "STR and rank mods apply as for escapes": does this apply to the rescuers as well? STR makes sense, but it does not seem right that a senior officer helping the rescue actually makes it harder (unless you hold the NCOs view of all senior officers :D )
The rank modifier is from the prisoner only. A Warlord+ is harder to rescue.
Fionn wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 1:56 pm "There is an additional -1 mod if the prisoners had planned their own escape that turn"; meaning that week or that month?
I’ve corrected this: week, it is.

It might be a good idea to plan this ahead. And not let the enemy know…
Fionn wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 1:56 pm "The outcome is taken from the Rescue table and is independent for each rescuer and prisoner"; presumably this means that there is one outcome roll per prisoner but everyone present makes a separate death roll?
I agree the wording is confusing and will clarify asap. There is one outcome roll made for every group of prisoners, and everyone involved rolls an individual death roll.
Fionn wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 1:56 pm "[T]here are no mods to the death roll" but "The Modifier for highest Battle is also used on the death rolls rolled for each individual taking part."??
This wad a mistakenly added section to the rules. I’ve deleted it. There are no modifiers to the death roll.

Re: Rescue rules queries

Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 3:10 pm
by Fionn
Since I think there will be the first rescue attempt this turn (but don't tell the Lunar Empire!), two more minor queries;

Does STR in rescuers count, or just prisoners?

And If a rescuer rolls exactly the death roll, is that a roll on the table, or automatic capture as it was before and the rules still say it is? I think it should be the latter, though obviously not where my characters are concerned :D .

Re: Rescue rules queries

Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 8:57 pm
by Puckohue
Fionn wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2024 3:10 pm Does STR in rescuers count, or just prisoners?
I agree it's fuzzy, but: a "group" can contain either prisoners OR rescuers.
Fionn wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2024 3:10 pm And If a rescuer rolls exactly the death roll, is that a roll on the table, or automatic capture as it was before and the rules still say it is? I think it should be the latter, though obviously not where my characters are concerned :D .
Yes, still captured. I've deleted "as usual" to avoid confusion.